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Post by mlbpa on Mar 1, 2014 9:38:51 GMT -5
Inland Empire 66ers: Jonny Gomes BOS, 6M; 7.55M (AAS 6.775M)
Cucamongua Quakes (lost Upton on TB): Carl Crawford LAD, 16.3M; 16.3M (AAS 16.3M) Marlon Byrd PHI, $15M (AAS $15M)
Miami Marlins: J.D. Martinez HOU, 750K; 750K (AAS 750K) Brayan Pena CIN, 1M (AAS 1)
Visalia Rawhide: Brandon Barnes COL, 1M; 2M; 3M; 4M (AAS 2.5M) David Ross BOS, 7M; 5.1M; 3.2M (AAS 5.1M)
Columbus Clippers: Jason Kubel MIN, 5M (AAS 5M)
Lakewood Blue Claws: B.J. Upton ATL, 15M (AAS 15M) Nick Hundley SDP, 8M (AAS 8M)
Durham Bulls: Justin Maxwell KCR, 3M; 3M; 3M (AAS 3M) Seth Smith SDP, 7M; 6M; 5M (AAS 6M)
Atlanta Braves: Andre Ethier LAD, 15M (AAS 15M)
Salem Sand Gnats: Carlos Ruiz PHI, 8.5M (AAS 8.5M) Cody Ross ARZ, 3.7175M (AAS 3.7175M)
Let me know if there are any mistakes here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 9:44:04 GMT -5
Braves should have won Ethier instead of Ichiro. Bid $15M on Ethier (and he was higher on the priority list than Ichiro).
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Post by mlbpa on Mar 1, 2014 14:29:01 GMT -5
Changes made to reflect Braves winning Ethier. Multiple teams were effected, so please take a second look
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Post by PawSox (GazW) on Mar 1, 2014 18:46:34 GMT -5
I take it the winning bid is based on the highest bid for a single year seeing as I offered more for both Upton and Ethier but over longer contracts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 19:44:59 GMT -5
I take it the winning bid is based on the highest bid for a single year seeing as I offered more for both Upton and Ethier but over longer contracts. Correct, AAS is the deciding factor
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Post by BlueSox GM(Matt P) on Mar 1, 2014 21:08:08 GMT -5
AAS is a pain. I offer longer contracts on Upton and Byrd and more money, and I still lose them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 21:27:02 GMT -5
I go back and forth on whether AAS or Total Contract Value should rule. In my mind, because owners are allowed to release a guy and only pay 1/2 of the contract really diminishes the Total Contract value argument. If it was all "guaranteed" like in real life I'd probably feel differently.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 21:32:28 GMT -5
If we go by real MLB contracts then we should go by total money offered. If team A is offering 1 year 15M deal and team B is offering 6 year 60M, I think the player should go to team B. I think in real life every player will take a 60M deal. But I do like 50% cap hit if a team releases a player.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 21:38:42 GMT -5
there are certainly examples where a player would take the longer contract at a lesser value. but there are also plenty of examples where for instance a player would never take 12m over two year (6M per) vs 10m over 1 year.
neither method is perfect, but in practice you end up with a lot of lower AAS contracts at long length if you use total value (esp because of the 1/2 price waivers) and the end result is a lot more unrealistically low contracts than if you use AAS which at least keeps salaries closer to normal. if we wanted something that matched real life more, we could make an even more complicated system (for instance we could require longer years at lower dollar amounts), but in this situation where neither method is perfect and we don't want things to get too complicated - between AAS and total contract - AAS is the far lesser of two evils.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 21:43:46 GMT -5
I see your point Tim. Maybe changing maximum salary for 1 year contract. I wasn't close to any of my bids anyway.
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Post by Sand Gnats (Matthew) on Mar 1, 2014 22:36:34 GMT -5
Trust us, this was a rule hashed out long ago. Would you take 2 years $16M or one year $15M? In a fantasy world where there are no agents, or real people making decisions to sign places for anything other than money, average annual salary is the best option we have.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 6:47:31 GMT -5
I agree with Matthew
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