Biscuits/Quakes TRADE

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Biscuits TRADE:
-- Mike Trout LAA OF, PP16
-- Joey Gallo TEX 3B, Prospect

Quakes TRADE:
-- Eric Young, Jr. NYM OF, PP14
-- George Springer HOU OF, Prospect
-- Jorge Soler CHC OF, Prospect
-- Kyle Crick SFG RHP, Prospect
-- Eddie Butler COL RHP, Prospect
-- Lance McCullers, Jr. HOU RHP, Prospect
-- Gary Sanchez NYY C, Prospect
-- Kohl Stewart MIN RHP, Prospect
-- Chris Anderson LAD RHP, Prospect
-- Nik Turley NYY LHP, Prospect

I accept. Wow… This is being blown away. I'll start with the MLB piece. Young is pretty good, will be nice for SBs. Springer is going to be a star in this league, he can cut down on the Ks. Soler has some good potential. Crick, Butler, McCullers, and Stewart are all high upside Ps with various ETAs, guys I really want. I give up the best player in the deal, but I receive the next best 7-8. This is 6 (maybe 7) Top 50 prospects… It is just such a great deal. Good luck Craig.

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Quakes accept.

Here is why...

1. I like Mike. Trout is the best player in baseball and possibly the best fantasy baseball player of all time.  He hasn't reached his prime yet.....Scary.

2. I like Gallo as the 4th best player in this trade, IMHO. (behind Springer and Soler)

3. Crick, Butler, Stewart, McCullers, Anderson and Turley.  I gave up six pitching prospects in the deal. History shows that well over half of pitching prospects never pan out, including top 100 prospects.  I predict out of those 6 that 3 flame out, 1 becomes a number 2 (probably Crick), 1 becomes a number 3 (Butler) and the other becomes a 4 or 5 (K.Stewart). 

4. Gary Sanchez is a fine catcher prospect.  However, Yankees always have overrated prospects.  See Montero, Jesus.

5. Most of the prospects I gave up I received in the Goldschmidt deal.  However, I was able to keep the three prospects I liked the most (Ventura, Dahl and Guzman)

6. I will probably regret including EY Jr. but he wanted a MLB player in return for Trout and I understood that.  It is not very often that you can acquire the best player in baseball for only unproven prospects but I think I just about accomplished that.

7. I was able to acquire Trout without parting with Javier Baez, which I thought would be close to impossible.  I am very high on Baez, even though I think he moves to 3B.

8. George Springer is the key to the deal.  If he becomes a superstar, I will likely regret this.  However, my gut tells me that he and Soler will become solid regulars but not stars anywhere near the caliber of Mike Trout.

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Nostradamus predictions:
2016 League Champion-Biscuits
2017 League Champion-Biscuits
2018 League Champion-Biscuits

Congratulations to both owners on deal and Good Luck to both of you.

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

Trade approved please update rosters and transactions

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Wow.

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We are new to the league and don't know the ins and outs yet, so we hesitate to chime in on this deal. From our perspective, it seem excessively one sided. No trades (or at least very few) are perfectly balanced to outsider viewers. Certainly the teams involved each like their side, or they wouldn't have done the trade.

For us, though we like Trout a great deal (we own him in ALL our other leagues), the shear amount of top talent spent for him in this deal warrants re-consideration. Just too lop-sided a trade. While flashy and glamorous to acquire Trout, this seems the kind of deal that potentially bankrupts the franchise who ships away that much talent and simultaneously strengthen the team who dealt the more glamorous player to an unbelievable (unacceptable?) degree. That makes the deal bad for the league overall.

Hope no one thinks we are out of line with these comments. Strictly our opinion; not pointing a finger at either owners.

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We scanned some of the already approved trades and saw Quacks was involved in another major blockbuster sending Goldschmidt for a somewhat similar mega-stack of prospects, though a much smaller one, so this kind of trade seems to have a president here.

We still think it's a dangerously one-sided trade.

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WE should realize that there is no perfect trade for Trout. You can overpay for him with MLB talent or trade him for a lot of high ranked prospects like in this trade. I don't think there is an even trade you can make for him. Either way you can't satisfy the rest of the teams in the league. And maybe Max did not want to spend 30-40 million on one player in few years when Trout will signs a mega deal.
Like someone said before "Owning Trout is like a curse because there is no right deal for him"

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All we meant is we think the league's overall well-being should take priority over any single trade. Though we agree dealing the guy is tough, there are probably more realistic ideas for acquiring Trout than the one posted -- ones that don't cripple the other side. A team that trades away that much talent for (as you allude to) a guy who is gonna cost what Trout will cost in a year or so is sure to put itself in a very tenuous position going forward. His next contract will cripple the Quacks, and he is only one player in a league that requires fully functional daily rosters.

The trade should have resulted in the Quakers getting back more and/or giving up less -- something more realistic for both sides.

A third option would have been to say, yeah, we like the guy -- in fact, we love the guy -- but he is simply too expensive for us to acquire him at that cost.

[Javelinas GM (Scott)]

Although this is an overpayment, I hope the TRP considers that Craig still has some nice minor league talent left and $93m in cap space to improve his team and retain Trout. I would never pony up that much talent, but I feel Craig's team was one of the few positioned to do so without crippling the franchise.

[Greenville Drive GM (Matt)]

Feb 15, 2014 12:10:55 GMT -5 Javelinas GM (Scott) said:

Although this is an overpayment, I hope the TRP considers that Craig still has some nice minor league talent left and $93m in cap space to improve his team and retain Trout. I would never pony up that much talent, but I feel Craig's team was one of the few positioned to do so without crippling the franchise.

This along with the fact that prospects are way more volatile than MLB players means you have to drastically overpay in prospects to get arguably the greatest fantasy talent that fantasy baseball has seen. If Craig wants to deal Trout later, he can get 2-4 legitimate MLB players for him in all likelihood, which would each take 1-2 good prospects each if traded for otherwise. That valuation is pretty close to this. Add to it that there's three years of minimum salary for the top fantasy talent by a wide margin and there's a ton of flexibility in having him that other greats can't provide.

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First off all, I took over the Quakes in the 35th round of the draft, therefore the team contained many players I didn't like/want. I made two blockbuster trades. It pretty much came down to me trading Goldschmidt, Corbin, and Kohl Stewart for Mike Trout. I don't think that type of player swap "cripples" my franchise.

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Dare I say that Joey Gallo has the talent to be the 2nd best player in this trade?

Only time will tell, but I think his ceiling is higher than Springer or Soler's.