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Oct 16, 2013 11:51:28 GMT -5 @moloy77 said:

Few question about 2 player contracts and Prospects/Rookes. Ian Desmond and Strasburgh from Washington.

Ok here is the contract for Desmond from Cot and it says he resigned on 1/18/13.

1.Did he sign for a 1 year 3.8M? Or he signed a longer deal and its not showing?

Ian Desmond ss
1 year/$3.8M (2013)
• 1 year/$3.8M (2013)
o re-signed by Washington 1/18/13 (avoided arbitration)
• 1 year/$0.5125M (2012)
o re-signed by Washington 3/2/12
• 1 year/$0.4415M (2011)
o re-signed by Washington 3/2/11
• 1 year/$0.4M (2010)
o re-signed by Washington 2/10
• 1 year/$0.4M (2009)
o contract purchased by Washington 11/10/08
o re-signed by Washington 2/14/09
• drafted 2004 (3-84)
• $0.43M signing bonus
• agent: Doug Rogalski
• ML service: 3.027

Here is Strasburg contract:

Stephen Strasburg rhp
4 years/$15.1M (2009-12)
• 4 years/$15.1M (2009-12)
o signed Major League contract with Washington 8/17/09
o $7.5M signing bonus
(paid in 3 installments of $2.5M, 9/1/09, 1/10/10, 1/10/11)
o 09:$0.4M (pro-rated), 10:$2M, 11:$2.5M, 12:$3M
o if not arbitration-eligible after 2012 season, 2013 salary is $3.9M
• drafted 2009 (1-1) (San Diego State)
• agent: Scott Boras
• ML service: 2.118

I have Few questions.
It says that he got a 7.5 million dollar signing bonus right.

2.So if I draft a prospect does that signing bonus will go against my cap and if it will go against the cap will it be spread out or you get a hit for that year?
So from my understanding Strasburg does not have a contract and is eligible for arbitration this year or he is going to sign a long term deal. I understand if you draft him and he goes through arbitration you only get him for one year and then you can tag him right.

3.When a draft starts I can draft any free agents right. So let’s say the free agent will not sign with a new or old team until let’s say April or May. Do I still hold rights to him or there is deadline to when he is going to get signed?

4.What happens to a Prospect/Rookie who got drafted and did not sign a contract with a team who drafted him, can he be drafted or be on your team even if he is not signed?

5.What happens if a Prospect/Rookie got drafted and did not want to sign with that team. Then next year he went back to the draft and got drafted by different MLB team?

6. In this Inaugural Draft is there any players that are not eligible to be drafted. For example: Unsigned rookies/prospects, Rookies/Prospects that don't won't to sign with the team that drafted them and going back to next years draft, International players that are not signed yet.

Thank you!

1) It's a 1 year, 3.8M deal to avoid going to arbitration but he is still PP eligible.

2) No SBs or cost for prospects you draft in any draft we have here (original or FYPD)

3) You'll hold the rights to any player until he signs. So if you drafted Kyle Lohse last year, you would have his rights until he signed. When he signed you would need to pick up his contract (which was 3/33 if I remember correctly). If you don't want the deal or cannot afford it you can decline his rights and release him to free agency.

4) Any unsigned prospects (like Phil Bickford) cannot be drafted in our original draft set to take place after the WS. Our FYPD will take place after the signing deadline so you won't be able to take unsigned players.

5) Take Mark Appel for example. He would be eligible for a 2013 FYPD rather than 2012 (when the Pirates selected him)

6) Prospects, like Bickford, that didn't sign with a team after this draft cannot be taken.

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Ok TY.
One more question:
Is there a time limit between draft picks?

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for the draft what about international free agents that haven't signed yet and have never appeared in MLB. i'm assuming we have to wait until they sign before we can draft them? but what if they sign mid-draft, a real possibility, will they have to be signed prior to our draft start date to eligible (otherwise it doesn't seem fair)?

so for instance, take jose abreu and masahiro tanaka, because they are both likely targets. if unsigned prior to our draft starting, do we have to wait until post-draft and then go through bidding for them.

thanks for the updates on the other stuff, interesting choices to take the contract or PP on some guys at the draft, most like Darvish (take PP) or Bumgarner (take contract) are clear but there are some like Puig that will make for interesting choices.

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

Max pretty much hit the nail on the head with all the questions above, but just simple calrification:

If a player still has PP years remaining, but also has signed a longterm major league contract, it is up to the Gm who drafted him which contract he wants to accept, but once posted you cannot change the contract.

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Oct 16, 2013 13:45:53 GMT -5 @moloy77 said:

Ok TY.
One more question:
Is there a time limit between draft picks?

There will be one TBD

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Oct 16, 2013 13:53:38 GMT -5 @muspelle said:

for the draft what about international free agents that haven't signed yet and have never appeared in MLB. i'm assuming we have to wait until they sign before we can draft them? but what if they sign mid-draft, a real possibility, will they have to be signed prior to our draft start date to eligible (otherwise it doesn't seem fair)?

so for instance, take jose abreu and masahiro tanaka, because they are both likely targets. if unsigned prior to our draft starting, do we have to wait until post-draft and then go through bidding for them.

thanks for the updates on the other stuff, interesting choices to take the contract or PP on some guys at the draft, most like Darvish (take PP) or Bumgarner (take contract) are clear but there are some like Puig that will make for interesting choices.

For now I'd say those players cannot be drafted and if they sign during the draft they will NOT be eligible to be signed. However, Jimmy and I will make an official decision on whether they can be picked


JIMMY: Internationals that do not have a MLB contract before the first pick of the draft is made will be ineligible to be drafted. We will place them in the position to be signed to a signing bonus with the other minorleaguers, since they are new to MLB baseball, but that will be held after the draft.

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

As far as time limit for the draft, we are going to slot one hour per pick, starting at 10am til 10pm est. If the pick before you is made early, you are more then welcome to make a pick. after 10pm, no one will be OTC, but the following picks could be made, provided the pick in front of them has been made.

But there will be slots posted, so you can log on early to see when you need to log on to make a pick, or if unavailable, send your pick (or list of top players on your draft board) to some one who can be around.

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Oct 16, 2013 16:40:06 GMT -5 Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM) said:

As far as time limit for the draft, we are going to slot one hour per pick, starting at 10am til 10pm est. If the pick before you is made early, you are more then welcome to make a pick. after 10pm, no one will be OTC, but the following picks could be made, provided the pick in front of them has been made.

But there will be slots posted, so you can log on early to see when you need to log on to make a pick, or if unavailable, send your pick (or list of top players on your draft board) to some one who can be around.

So to clarify it will be like:

1. Team A (10AM-11AM)
2. Team B (11AM-12Noon)
3. Team C (12Noon-1PM)

If Team A picks before 11AM, Team B has from then until 12Noon to make their pick, regardless of the prior picks made. Time slots will be done each day, and as Jimmy stated them will be from 10AM EST until 10PM EST.

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Dunno...I know we have a lot of picks to get done, but I'd hate to see my draft board burned up and only have an hour to figure out a way to trade down.

Any way to create a time bank or something just in case that happens and you want/need to make a deal?  Not having a chatango or way to live private chat is also a hindrance to quick trading.

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Don't take this as a suggestion for a change to the draft schedule because I'm fine with that - but if later on you decide you want to move things faster - we could do the later picks with a 15min clock or no clock at all just first come first serve. Sounds weird I know, but in reality, once you get to the later rounds (say round 20 on, or whatever number you think is right, but that would be everyone after the top600), there is very little difference in value between the first pick in a round and the last pick in a round (i.e. the difference between 601 and 630 is very marginal), so anyone losing out by not getting in quick sacrifices very little actual value. of course, if you're one guy goes it feels bad, but in the big picture the difference is only a hair above zero. Plus since the draft snakes any disadvantage would alternate equally amongst managers (if i'm the that has to be quick to get my early pick one day, i've got little to lose the next day). If we did that, we could do a round per day, which is the payoff. Either by using a 15min clock, or by just doing each day first come first serve. Again, not a suggestion for a change, so no answer is needed here, just a tool if you later decide you need it.


I would prefer not to change the rules mid draft. Likewise there are some guys in here that are very knowledgeable anomngst MILB, and so they do value those picks. Just as a reference, in another league two years ago I drafted Alen Hansen with what would have been the 47th round pick in this league. There is still plenty of value with those picks, especially longterm. They will not yield the immediate results most likely, but the value is still there. Remember, DYNASTY league.

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For the draft:

1) If you miss your time slot, do you become at will to make your pick at your convenience later (or trade it) rather than losing it (if so I assume you lose priority over any picks actually made before you make your pick)?
2) If you pick someone that has already been taken/ineligible, then what happens (same answer as 1 - you lose your priority over anyone that actually picks before you make yours)??

These seem like simple Qs I know, but they've caused problems in other leagues I've been in before if not clarified up front.

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

Oct 16, 2013 21:28:59 GMT -5 @muspelle said:

For the draft:

1) If you miss your time slot, do you become at will to make your pick at your convenience later (or trade it) rather than losing it (if so I assume you lose priority over any picks actually made before you make your pick)?
2) If you pick someone that has already been taken/ineligible, then what happens (same answer as 1 - you lose your priority over anyone that actually picks before you make yours)??

These seem like simple Qs I know, but they've caused problems in other leagues I've been in before if not clarified up front.

1) you make your pick or trade your pick at your convenience, you do not lose your turn. However upon completion of the draft, any selections not made will have 48 hours to make their picks, otherwise they will forfeit their unused picks.

2) you will have to re-pick at your convenience, however the next pick in line is allowed to make their pick.

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For scoring:

1) Are the maximums for IPs or Games Played, especially IP (i'm assuming minimums are unnecessary because you can't punt SPs in a 30team roto and come in top4, so just asking about maximums because running a full bench of SPs is possible)?
2) Similarly, for the H2H portion?

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

No maximums, but if I can get the 7 day limit approved it will help reduce the extended benches for SP. Again, my goal is to make it so you cant stack 15PP Starting Pitcher where you can move them up and down on a daily basis. If I can get Fantrax to approve a 7 day hold, it will eliminate reduce such streaming.

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ok, thanks for all the answers.

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

Oct 16, 2013 19:47:29 GMT -5 @ringb39 said:

Dunno...I know we have a lot of picks to get done, but I'd hate to see my draft board burned up and only have an hour to figure out a way to trade down.

Any way to create a time bank or something just in case that happens and you want/need to make a deal?  Not having a chatango or way to live private chat is also a hindrance to quick trading.

The draft wont move quick enough where your draft board burns up, unless you are just total unprepared, at which rate the blame is more on you. My draft board is about 900 players big right now (just not in order), ant it took me all of 72 hours to put it together in general. So unless your unprepared, it shouldn't be a big issue.

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Well, what I'm saying is not that my board will be burned up. I'm in 5 of these at least and I'm just doing this from memory. I'm not concerned about not knowing who's available. It won't be a preparedness issue.

What I'm saying is that let's say in round 5 I'm looking for pitching options, but hate everyone that wouldn't be a total overdraft at my pick because the final quality one I was targeting went right ahead of me. Now instead of picking, I want to move down in the draft because I don't feel I have value at that pick for what my team needs. Honestly, reason doesn't matter and it's getting long-winded. Now I've got to move and make a deal to drop down in 1 hour or teams can draft after me which further devalues my pick. It also depends on having people around the site.

That's more what I'm driving at.

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I was going to wait a while on another question round and batch all my Qs together, but the last one relates to pick trading so I'm going to go ahead and post my current questions now:

1) what are the position qualifications? i.e. how many games started needed for SP qualification, games relieved for RP, and games played to any given offense slot. if it's just espn default, that's fine i can look it up there, but i've heard both fantrax mentioned as well as espn, so if we did fantrax we could have custom settings.

2) since for drafted PP guys we can choose either their PP status ($500K) or their actual contract, what is the deadline for choosing, at the time the guy is drafted, end-of-draft, start of spring training, etc.? some guys will potentially get long-term extensions during the winter, so i'm just trying to get an idea at what point we have to lock them into PP and thus have to use a tag next year to get their later extension.

3) what will happen with suspended players? will we be stuck keeping them and wasting a spot on our 25 man roster or dropping them, or will we have some sort of slot for them? (I wouldn't draft Arod because of his contract, but I might plan dollars to bid on him in free agency if he doesn't take up one of my 7 bench spots - although he's obviously not the only one suspensions will affect, just the main one that matters at the moment)

4) can cash be traded, and if so are there any restrictions? for instance if i want to trade up/down in the draft can i accomplish that by using cash?

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

#1 will be Fantrax default. I believe positioning wise its 20 games for next year eligibility, 10 starts for current eligibility, i could be wrong. SP/RP I have no clue, but the Pitching roster is pretty flexible and I think its a non-factor for pitchers.

#2 You cant delay picking the contract. it should be posted when the pick is made. if your on your phone i can understand 24 hours. Free agents/arb guys will be TBD. But you cant draft Trout, and wait 1 month to see if he signs a longterm deal, he would be PP (unless something changes before the draft). Someone like Puig, you have to make the choice of MLB contract or PP status.

#3 Suspensions can be moved to the IR or to your minor league system, with no penalty to the 25 man roster. Once reinstated though, you will have 72 hours to bring them back to your 25 man roster, or place them on waivers.

#4 There will be no trading of cash in this league. Its way to confusing to track.

[Javelinas GM (Scott)]

1) Are we allowed to draft more or less than 45 picks? Say I trade a 9th for a 10th and 30th.... I would have 46 picks and they would have 44.

2) Do prospects such as Lucas Sims count towards the 55 man roster limits?