OFFSEASON SCHEDULE

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

All dates are subject to change:


- Trading will re-open the day after the World Series ends. Any player or prospect is available to be traded, however any player that would be deemed a free agent (no contract for 2015) can only be traded with a tag attached to that player.

- RRB Future Year Player Draft will start Nov 11th. This is a tentative date, but we hope to start the draft right around this period. All draft picks will have a slotted time to keep flow. There will be no slotted time the day before, or and after Thanksgiving.

All Tags must be designated by 11:59pm on Jan 3rd, 2015.

Restricted FA Bidding will be designated to start January 12th.

Unrestricted FA Bidding will be designated to start February 16th




For the draft, this means everyone has just under 2 months to prepare. If you need help finding information out there, ask around because there are numerous sites that have information on players from the 2014 MLB Draft.

Any other questions, please feel free to ask myself or Max.

[Deleted]

and the draft is limited to players chosen in the 2014 mlb draft, who have signed a contract, right? No minor leaguers or international signees?

[PawSox (GazW)]

I thought it was 2014 draft and July 2nd IFA's. Is that not right?

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

ruthianrotobaseball.proboards.com/thread/14/13-future-year-player-draft

[BlueSox GM(Matt P)]

How can the FYPD happen before RFA? Or are the compensatory picks for next year's draft. It would seem the compensatory picks would make more sense to happen the offseason you lose the players, not the season after....

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

Compensatory picks will be for the season after. I dont like to offer a compensatory pick this season because the teams with high picks are guaranteed to lose more this offseason. I prefer to mitigate the risk to the following season, to allow the teams that need those picks to rebuild quicker and possibly gain a competitive asset.

[Javelinas GM (Scott)]

Does trading start after RRB WS or real life WS?

[Deleted]

Don't see why teams can't work up deals -- even if some owners are involved with fantasy football. Let's get on with this...

[Deleted]

Things like it's going to be next year's picks should have been announced previously. I for one was planning on the picks being this year as i was imaging most managers were as that is the natural way to do things with comp picks. Please in the future clarify all this stuff much more in advance. We've had way too many rules where its only clear in commish's head and announced very late what the commish's view of the rules are once we've planned on other stuff.  I don't mind if you want to mix things up and do things differently, but announcing this stuff so late in the game isn't cool.

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

Sept 29, 2014 9:35:09 GMT -5 @muspelle said:

Things like it's going to be next year's picks should have been announced previously. I for one was planning on the picks being this year as i was imaging most managers were as that is the natural way to do things with comp picks. Please in the future clarify all this stuff much more in advance. We've had way too many rules where its only clear in commish's head and announced very late what the commish's view of the rules are once we've planned on other stuff.  I don't mind if you want to mix things up and do things differently, but announcing this stuff so late in the game isn't cool.

Tim it's just a poor assumption on your part. Per the rules (http://ruthianrotobaseball.proboards.com/thread/8/7-restricted-free-agency)

"All picks will be determined by the order of the standings for the following season, including supplemental picks (by order of the team losing the player)"

I never announced anything different, and to me this is the more natural thing, especially considering this is how the MLB does it, except they do their draft in June not November.

The reason we do the RFA in January is it allows GMs time to see if their free agents to be sign favorable contracts worth a Franchise tag during the offseason. Also holding the draft first allows teams to acquire more assets to use in trading, and as stated in a post earlier this month I would rather see poor teams use picks on high end talent then move picks to sign a 30-32 RFA... Being experienced in leagues like this that is the better option to rebuilding and being competitive.

[Deleted]

Since we just completed the 2014 season, it would seem the 2015 season is the "following season."

[Deleted]

Sept 29, 2014 10:24:50 GMT -5 Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM) said:

Sept 29, 2014 9:35:09 GMT -5 @muspelle said:

Things like it's going to be next year's picks should have been announced previously. I for one was planning on the picks being this year as i was imaging most managers were as that is the natural way to do things with comp picks. Please in the future clarify all this stuff much more in advance. We've had way too many rules where its only clear in commish's head and announced very late what the commish's view of the rules are once we've planned on other stuff.  I don't mind if you want to mix things up and do things differently, but announcing this stuff so late in the game isn't cool.

Tim it's just a poor assumption on your part. Per the rules (http://ruthianrotobaseball.proboards.com/thread/8/7-restricted-free-agency)

"All picks will be determined by the order of the standings for the following season, including supplemental picks (by order of the team losing the player)"

I never announced anything different, and to me this is the more natural thing, especially considering this is how the MLB does it, except they do their draft in June not November.

The reason we do the RFA in January is it allows GMs time to see if their free agents to be sign favorable contracts worth a Franchise tag during the offseason. Also holding the draft first allows teams to acquire more assets to use in trading, and as stated in a post earlier this month I would rather see poor teams use picks on high end talent then move picks to sign a 30-32 RFA... Being experienced in leagues like this that is the better option to rebuilding and being competitive.

Actually, Jimmy that's not so clear.

First of all, it's a pretty indirect/hidden way to announce where the comp picks come from to not say it anywhere directly but just put it as an inference for order. Something that important should have been stated clearly on its own. Practically a lot of people are going to miss that implication and read that a bit differently and look to the standings for 2015 picks.

Second, the rule wasn't written as you state it above anyway.  You've said above, "All picks will be determined by the order of the standings for the following season, including supplemental picks (by order of the team losing the player)"  But the rule actually says, "All picks will be determined by the order of the standings for the following seasons, including supplemental picks (by order of the team losing the player)"  When you stated the rule above in your argument, you misstated it by saying following season instead of following seasons. When you use the actual rule instead, it's pretty easy to see why people wouldn't catch on to what you mean.  Not only is it again an indirect way of announcing it, but if you read it literally it means the standings for the following 3 seasons, etc. since it specifies seasons instead of specific seaosns, so people are going read that generally not specifically like you just re-wrote it.  It makes it more clear with the way you just re-wrote it today, but not as much before.  Its so general that a lot of teams are going to think it means the seasons following when the rule was written.  And the natural assumption, despite your best protest otherwise, is that the pick comes that draft, that's how mlb does it, that's how most leagues do it.  If you prefer it a different way, that's fine, but that doesn't make it the natural assumption.

This is also been discussed in the shout box many, many times.  i bet marlins alone has said a dozen times how he was going to give up his first pick THIS YEAR in order to bid on RFAs.  and no one has said anything contrary.  this is sthg that has had 20-30 mentions i would imagine over the course of the season and so there was ample opportunity to clear this up.  but that was not done either.  and it was clear from all the discussions that most of the league thought that the comp picks came this year.

So Jimmy that's just a poorly announced rule on your part.  It would probably go as water under the bridge except we've had other similar rules, where they were written poorly like the post-trade deadline waiver rules or the way the playoffs designed.  The non-playoff teams didn't see this, but the playoff rosters had 30man rosters with no minors.  So while we could only have 25man rosters in the regular season and only PPs could go up and down from the 55man roster to the 25man, in the playoffs anyone could go up and down essentially.  That was announced, the commish just decided he liked the idea.  I didn't protest simply because it didn't matter to my team at that point, but a lot of managers might have traded differently had they known that (me included).

I asked that rules be announced more clearly.  I don't want to have to read your mind.

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

Sept 29, 2014 14:07:54 GMT -5 @muspelle said:

Sept 29, 2014 10:24:50 GMT -5 Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM) said:

Tim it's just a poor assumption on your part. Per the rules (http://ruthianrotobaseball.proboards.com/thread/8/7-restricted-free-agency)

"All picks will be determined by the order of the standings for the following season, including supplemental picks (by order of the team losing the player)"

I never announced anything different, and to me this is the more natural thing, especially considering this is how the MLB does it, except they do their draft in June not November.

The reason we do the RFA in January is it allows GMs time to see if their free agents to be sign favorable contracts worth a Franchise tag during the offseason. Also holding the draft first allows teams to acquire more assets to use in trading, and as stated in a post earlier this month I would rather see poor teams use picks on high end talent then move picks to sign a 30-32 RFA... Being experienced in leagues like this that is the better option to rebuilding and being competitive.

Actually, Jimmy that's not so clear.

First of all, it's a pretty indirect/hidden way to announce where the comp picks come from to not say it anywhere directly but just put it as an inference for order. Something that important should have been stated clearly on its own. Practically a lot of people are going to miss that implication and read that a bit differently and look to the standings for 2015 picks.

Second, the rule wasn't written as you state it above anyway.  You've said above, "All picks will be determined by the order of the standings for the following season, including supplemental picks (by order of the team losing the player)"  But the rule actually says, "All picks will be determined by the order of the standings for the following seasons, including supplemental picks (by order of the team losing the player)"  When you stated the rule above in your argument, you misstated it by saying following season instead of following seasons. When you use the actual rule instead, it's pretty easy to see why people wouldn't catch on to what you mean.  Not only is it again an indirect way of announcing it, but if you read it literally it means the standings for the following 3 seasons, etc. since it specifies seasons instead of specific seaosns, so people are going read that generally not specifically like you just re-wrote it.  It makes it more clear with the way you just re-wrote it today, but not as much before.  Its so general that a lot of teams are going to think it means the seasons following when the rule was written.  And the natural assumption, despite your best protest otherwise, is that the pick comes that draft, that's how mlb does it, that's how most leagues do it.  If you prefer it a different way, that's fine, but that doesn't make it the natural assumption.

This is also been discussed in the shout box many, many times.  i bet marlins alone has said a dozen times how he was going to give up his first pick THIS YEAR in order to bid on RFAs.  and no one has said anything contrary.  this is sthg that has had 20-30 mentions i would imagine over the course of the season and so there was ample opportunity to clear this up.  but that was not done either.  and it was clear from all the discussions that most of the league thought that the comp picks came this year.

So Jimmy that's just a poorly announced rule on your part.  It would probably go as water under the bridge except we've had other similar rules, where they were written poorly like the post-trade deadline waiver rules or the way the playoffs designed.  The non-playoff teams didn't see this, but the playoff rosters had 30man rosters with no minors.  So while we could only have 25man rosters in the regular season and only PPs could go up and down from the 55man roster to the 25man, in the playoffs anyone could go up and down essentially.  That was announced, the commish just decided he liked the idea.  I didn't protest simply because it didn't matter to my team at that point, but a lot of managers might have traded differently had they known that (me included).

I asked that rules be announced more clearly.  I don't want to have to read your mind.

Tim, the way its written is about the best way I could have put it without setting up an example (which I should have done). However, as you have hinted, the difference in "following the season's" and "the following season's" can make a big difference. The "seasons" definition as you lacks an apostrophe which I did not catch, and can fix pretty quickly.

I also have addressed this issue several times, and Marlins blasts off thing 100x after they have been decided, so you cant always listen to Matt (especially when he drinks).

The Playoff rosters did not work the way I wanted too, and in the rush of setting up a playoff structure, adding players for rosters, and such in one day was tough. Next year it will be simplified and we will use the regular season site for the playoffs, both to keep the same structure and it also allows the rest of the league to follow along if they like. That one I can take the blame for because there was alot going on in a little time and it didn't work the way I would have liked.


The TRP is working through some rule amendments right now, and in the midst of those amendments I will also review all the rules and make sure the clarification is there, if necessary. I hope to have all of this completed before the draft.

[Javelinas GM (Scott)]

Does trading start after RRB WS or real life WS?

And, when do options have to be decided by?

[Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM)]

Options follow the same deadline as tags.

Trading is to open after the end of the MLB World Series, though I may open it sooner. There are things and housekeeping issues that I need to have nailed down before we officially open the 2015 season