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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 15:20:27 GMT -5
I don't think we should speculate on solutions until we know exactly what the problems are.
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Post by Winston-Salem Spirits (Brad) on Nov 14, 2014 15:27:40 GMT -5
Even the RFA guys are not super top of the line. I have Mike Leake RFAd for goodness sake. Maybe creating a minimum investment for owners restricting their players would keep that 2nd or 3rd tier form being tagged. Something like - if you tag a player, no matter what the highest bid in RFA is, you must pay that player a contract no less than $20M in total for no more than 4 years. That might deter the use of the tag for teh Mike Leake - Neftali Feliz - Chase Headley tier.
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Post by Winston-Salem Spirits (Brad) on Nov 14, 2014 15:29:04 GMT -5
Just popcorning. What fun is fantasy sports without the speculation?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 15:47:00 GMT -5
The next question is once a manager loses a draft pick, because of a RFA signing, said manager can no longer bid within that tier? Now my question got buried. So I am bringing it forward.
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Post by Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM) on Nov 14, 2014 20:35:31 GMT -5
we will do one round of RFA Hitters, followed by RFA Pitchers.
The majority of RFA Bids will be matched. Like Tim said, the additional loss of pick(s) as compensation will curb even more that reality.
As far as the "if one team makes two insanely high bids and wins both of them" compensation question, I think we will cross that bridge when we get there. Its not something I would forsee as a huge question, but your right there is always a slim possibility of this happening.
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Post by Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM) on Nov 14, 2014 20:38:43 GMT -5
The next question is once a manager loses a draft pick, because of a RFA signing, said manager can no longer bid within that tier? Now my question got buried. So I am bringing it forward. you can bid, but we would still probably consider a loss of your next pick (2nd), plus maybe additional compensation (or maybe not). again, extremely unlikely scenario, but if it happens TRP will discuss it if/when it occurs
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 0:39:47 GMT -5
I have to admit I am disappointed and surprised by that response.
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Post by Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM) on Nov 15, 2014 8:23:56 GMT -5
I have to admit I am disappointed and surprised by that response. Tom, through what have been in 12 RFA bidding seasons over the years and leagues that I have been in, the situation has never arisen. If it happens, there will be a degree of compensation that is still equal to what should be received by the GM. So likely (though not officially), a 2nd round pick will probably be taken from the bidding team, and the possibility of another supplemental pick could be added. again, about 90% of RFA tags will be matched, so you are trying to get an answer to a situation that may have a 1-2% chance of actually happening.
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Post by Generals GM (Pete) on Nov 15, 2014 8:37:28 GMT -5
That is a lot of players going through RFA at one time. I made a comment in the chatbox, but it has since aged up. One league they break them into groups of 10, sorted alphabetically. I think if 30 some odd pitchers are all posted the same week, it makes it really hard to determine cap space to bid, because if you bid on too many guys, then you may end up getting them all. Or if you have a two guys of your own you are planning to match, then it is going to prohibit, or hinder, you from bidding on other pitchers.
If all 30 teams use both tags as RFA, then there are 60, so it runs it out over the course of 6 weeks. Which in the middle of winter isn't necessarily a bad thing. Also if an absent owner happens to miss a week, you aren't totally out of it.
Just a suggestion.
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Post by Rawhide GM (Jimmy-LM) on Nov 15, 2014 8:56:25 GMT -5
its not a bad idea Pete, ive never seen it done before like that. However it can be no worse that having 100 pitchers in a free agency week. I also, as a bidder, like being able to use my cap and see big picture of bidding on everyone. This is where the priority list becomes very helpful to me. I also, as a GM who tagged the player, dont like the uneven playing field of bidding and values. If you lost out on bids to say Cueto, and Scherzer, a guy like Latos may become more valuable to you since you missed out on two frontline starters, which will escelate his $$ tag. That to me is when stupid money gets spent, and thats one of those things that can destroy a team in leagues like this. So my idea from the start was to curb that kind of spending as much as possible, and having all the pitchers/hitters on the market at the same time I think helps that cause.
The only one that it creates more work for is me doing all the bid sorting, and I don't mind it if it makes the league better
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Post by Generals GM (Pete) on Nov 15, 2014 15:00:16 GMT -5
the other league also limits the number of unrestricted free agents teams can nominate, at least in the first few weeks, I think it is 2 per team per week. Keeps the bids down and allows people to see what is out there and what the going prices are.
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